I don’t I want my I give credit to my parents for starting me out in music and in writing, too, because it all led to one thing led to another. I started at five years old and my, my mother got me into piano lessons. And I was I started making up these little, little ditties on the piano, and they didn’t seem like they meant anything but they did. They ended up to being writing hit songs today and But it’s, they My parents always thought I was wasting their time, you know, by making up these little cities instead of actually concentrating on a program get with the plan, you know. So, so 1000 songs later I’ve written 1000 songs which which have been published, published, and 100 I’ve had hundred 50 of my songs recorded by major and independent artists, some of the artists are love it is Engelbert humperdinck, who is the king of romance singer and Gloria Gaynor, who did the song I will survive. And anyway, my song garnered a platinum album. That means 1 million units sold or more, and then also was nominated twice as songwriter I was actually awarded Songwriter of the Year twice here in Nashville, and also in have won several Grammy and Dove nominations and now it’s led me to 2012 is where I’m starting to write books. I started writing books. And my, my philosophy is your writer, your writer, you know, even if you can’t write music, at least you write lyrics. And my, I believe a novel is nothing more than a three minute song gets song three to four minute hit song or vice versa, you know, it’s just condensed, you know, a hit song is three to four minutes and a novel is probably at least 60,000 pages or more than that, plus, and so I have 32 traditionally published books, decided to go the route with traditional there’s nothing wrong with self publishing, it’s great and works for people, some people, but I get advances on some of my books. That means money ahead of time, on the royalties, they’re not it’s not free money. And then the I also sign traditional contracts where they, they do all the work, they pay for everything and then they send me a check for money.